Andy McGrillin

And let's be fair, it's hard to say, it's hard to remember every conversation you have and keep your same exact phrasing every single time.

So I understand that happens.

But he has shown that he's dedicated to disclosure and to getting this information out there.

I get a sense of

I believe that his motivations are pure, whether or not he's been right and wrong about every single thing.

I don't know if there's any way to know that.

But Kirkpatrick, we know, has tried to throw cold water on this whole community and sort of, I don't know, spread doubt, provide an alternative narrative.

Dismiss people, which is his specialty.

Just kind of piss on the whole parade and do it in a way that, for some reason, for a guy that came, did it, and then is like, I'm not even really into this.

He's sure fucking interested in it.

He's always talking about it.

He keeps showing up.

You would think this guy would just move on if it was such a nothing burger.

But for one reason or another, he's always out there.

And I think it's healthy that Tim confronted him.

And his phrasing is so...

It's so ironclad.

He's like, this is all bullshit.

This is what we found.

We found no evidence of anything.