Andy Stumpf

But as a general rule, I agree, it's not a great optic.

But what's the other option?

Require them

to do their job to the best of their ability and then have an entire community of people pushing out their personal information

as far and as wide as possible in the hopes that somebody does something about it or ruining their life, that's not viable either.

And then there's a comment people say, well, they shouldn't do that job in the first place.

And this is a real interesting conversation point.

When I do encounter people who say that illegal aliens being removed from this country, unless they're a criminal, we should just let them be.

I flip this and I say, okay, you're in France.

You decide to go over to France for whatever reason.

You're on a 90 day visa.

You're not a criminal.

You're traveling through.

Maybe you decide that you want to stay.

And maybe you don't even realize you overstay your visa, which is, of course, these are two different issues.

But the point is you have now reached a place where you're no longer legally in that country.

I'll ask them, if you encountered the French authorities, just to use France as an example, which, again, I'm not an expert on that either, pick your country.

If you were to encounter an official from France who has responsibilities around immigration and immigration control, what do you expect that they would do?

I can't think of anybody who has said anything when I posed them that question other than, yeah, they would make me leave.

It's like, okay, what are we talking about then?