Andy Stumpf

And for clarity, I mean, that's Dave would be pissed, actually, if I didn't mention that because he would never tolerate anybody else beating around the bush.

He legitimately had an issue with alcohol, as some people do from that community.

They knew that he was struggling.

He's the only guy I know who did multiple treatments of, I have zero experience in psychedelics, but from listening to people talk about ayahuasca and Ibogaine, rides that don't seem to be a very good time.

And oftentimes will instantaneously change the relationship they have with substances, whether it's opiates or alcohol.

Not that you would never drink again, but their relationship with it just shifts.

They're like, you know what?

I don't even have the desire to do so.

72 hours later, 96 hours later, and it's not like he just tried once.

He would go back.

He would even facilitate treatment for other people, but it wasn't working for him, but he wasn't sharing that.

And that isolation and loneliness and that difference between that standard and what he was able to do

got him to that place where he put a gun in his mouth, you know, alone, isolated at his family home in Florida.

And when everybody showed up at the funeral, it's like, what could we have done more?

And that happens at every, nobody's at a funeral saying, oh, I did everything I could.

Never have heard that, by the way, to just, God, I nailed it.

I'm like, really?

Exhibit A would, like, none of us nailed it.

We all fucked up.

Or