Anna Sale

Like, obviously, looking good didn't work for you, you know?

Right.

So her big thing that she would, her catchphrase would always be, like, whatever you were obsessing about, Nick, if a haircut...

If haircuts worked for you, you'd have an amazing life.

We love Kathy.

We love Kathy.

So sometimes it's very helpful to lose everything because then a comment like that really puts it in perspective.

And I was heading into my 40s, so the weight wasn't coming off the way that it used to.

And I had to like, maybe like six months in, I had to, instead of all my medium polo shirts that I wore to work, I went online to get some larges, which was, felt like a dagger to my heart.

Um...

Pretty much, well, I think, because I've gone, they're all spaced out about a year.

So probably 2021.

So I broached the subject with Walker of Lightbow and he was like, sure, whatever.

I had already gone back, same surgeon, had already held the date, paid a deposit because I knew come hell or high water, I had to do it.

And then I just had to have like an honest adult conversation with Walker.

And that was not the right way.

And that's why it was so bad, just in that he's like, well, you're going to do it.

I mean, you're already doing it.

I think it was layered because it was also the first time I had heard, I loved your body before.

The first time I had heard, what are you doing?