Anna Tyshinsky

But he was a very small man and it meant that his wife could carry him.

And the anecdote goes that he and some of his friends are in the gardens and they were messing around and joshing around and they would have races.

And during these races, sometimes Dolly Madison, his wife, would carry him.

Lovely.

I think if you go to gigs, sometimes people might carry you on their shoulders.

Chalk and cheese both begin with CH, of course, which makes them a little bit similar in the same way that piggybacks and shoulder rides are quite similar.

Yeah, perfect.

Yeah.

No.

Yep.

Who's the shortest Prime Minister?

Liz Truss must be there or thereabouts.

Was she?

Yeah, he's a big deal.

One of the early ones.

So like one of the founding fathers, friends with all the big guys that you've heard of, but probably of those first four or five, the least famous, I would say, maybe John Adams a little bit.

I think so.

He was president during the war of 1812 when the British burned down the White House and he was the one who had to leg it with Dolly, in fact.

And there's a story that Dolly grabbed the portrait of George Washington before they left because she was so patriotic.

She was like, we definitely need to keep this.