Annabel

And I always think with these people you can't even go into the shops without somebody, you know, freaking out or being surrounded by a bunch of people who, you know, protect you from,

you know, being mobbed but who in consequence also watch everything that you do.

Like it's just having an audience all the time.

Anyway, I mean I think they both deal with it with ridiculous amounts of grace, by the way.

I mean like one thing that struck me with Michelle Obama was that she was like incredibly warm and open and friendly and very funny and kind of remembered things about you, you know, like I think what's going on in your brain?

You can remember, you know, that my friend is interviewing you next and what

She's, yeah, I mean, amazing to be able to keep open those kind of channels when everybody is asking a lot of you.

Hey, I read this novel that apparently everybody is talking about.

Can I have some points for that?

Because I never have read the novel that everyone's talking about.

But, like, this novel's been on the, like, top of the New York Times bestsellers list for some time.

I've read a few kind of articles about it.

It's called – God.

What is it called?

Yesteryear.

Thank you.

It's about a trad wife.

Now, do you know much about the trad wife movement?

I do, yeah.

Yeah.