Anne Applebaum

I mean, killing a million people, so what?

I lived in London.

I lived in Poland.

I live in Poland, actually.

I spent about half my time in Poland.

I live in Warsaw, and then we have a house in northwest Poland as well in the country.

We renovated, old house.

I haven't really lived anywhere else, but I've spent a lot of time flying around and staying in other places.

Spent a lot of time in Ukraine.

Well, Russia's out.

You don't want to be kidnapped.

Honestly, if I had the right kind of skills, and I don't, but maybe a young person would, I would be trying to work in the Ukrainian drone industry.

It will.

I mean, once the fighting stops, they're now so far ahead of everybody else.

Everybody's going there to learn how they're doing it, including Americans and including the British and including the Poles, obviously.

I would do that.

You know, so actually the country where I see the most innovation and where things are really exciting is there.

I mean, obviously, you know, you have to be pretty tolerant of loud noises at night and so on, but...

But I would do that.

And then, you know, yeah, I mean, Poland.