Annie Jacobsen

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309 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 29 Jul

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The Glenn Beck Program · Fauci Pleads the 5th to Sen. Paul: What Is He Afraid Of? | Guest: Annie Jacobsen | 7/29/26 · 29 Jul 2026 podcast

Why haven't we learned from it? voice-verified

And you could say, call me a Pollyanna, it's never too late to learn from the past. voice-verified

If you subscribe to the idea that the Wuhan situation was a lab leak, it has already happened. voice-verified

Well, you're right in worrying about this. voice-verified

I mean, I threw out the numbers earlier, 110 BSL-4 labs, 3,500 BSL-3 labs. voice-verified

But you know what's fascinating in a terrifying way? voice-verified

Those numbers are not from any government organization because there is no government organization, either in America or internationally, that tracks and monitors the BSL-3 and 4 labs. voice-verified

None. voice-verified

These statistics come to us from academics and scientists. voice-verified

who work tirelessly to get that information out to the public, to which most people pay attention. voice-verified

In all Defense Department programs, voice-verified

biological war gaming I looked at that includes incidents or accidents. voice-verified

A common phrase that I came across, which is so disquieting, is that fear of infection voice-verified

is the real secondary effect that kicks in and causes the anarchy and insurrection that almost certainly will take hold fear of infection and that has to do with the fact that precisely as you say if public health officials aren't trusted to say this is how you can be infected this is the degree of contagion voice-verified

This is the degree of virulence, all of those kind of basic science ideas that all of us should know. voice-verified

They're not that complex. voice-verified

I make them very simple in the book to understand. voice-verified

If you don't trust people that are in charge, then that fear of infection is going to absolutely take hold. voice-verified

So, I mean, absolutely. voice-verified

And that's exactly what happens. voice-verified

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