Anthony Romero

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127 appearances 9 recordings 2 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard Jun 2025

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Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
Hey, Charlie, I got a question. So I get this asked a lot. How do you guys select your campus tours? Because from what I can tell, it's mostly the south, west coast and a little bit in the north.
There's a lot of loops.
I think we could very well be there. We're at the Rubicon. Whether we've crossed it is yet to be determined. Well, describe what the Rubicon is.
The Rubicon is the flagrant abuse of judicial power. If the Trump administration decides to run the gauntlet and openly defy a judicial order in a way that is not about an appeal, it's not about clarifying, it's not about getting a congressional fix, but an open defiance to a judicial order, then I think we're there.
Well, there are 40 cases, David. There have been a bunch of lawsuits around the Doge and whether or not the Doge and Elon Musk have overextended their power.
Exactly. There are some who say that they're violating the Privacy Act, that they're accessing personal identifiable information. on American citizens, their social security numbers, their tax returns, all sorts of information that are in the government data banks.
Now, whether or not they've actually accessed that, whether there's harm, whether or not the individuals who are bringing cases have standing, those are all to be determined by the judges. But there are about four cases, I think, that have been filed there thus far.
Then there's all the questions around shutting down or the closure of grants from the federal government, from USAID and other agencies. This is considered illegal by legal experts because Congress appropriates the money.
It's not the president's power to rewrite the appropriations from Congress.
Legitimate. That's the word that jumped at me. And that's what we're arguing about, whether it's a legitimate use of the executive branch power. And it's not a new controversy. I mean, we've had these debates before. The unitary executive, remember that back in the days of George Bush. And of course, most presidents have tried to exert a much more muscular approach to executive power
than I think the courts or Congress often give them the room for.
Well, the other thing to play on confidence is Look at the Supreme Court, the Merrick Garland moment when they were able to replace that appointment with one of their own. Six to three. It has been a generational shift in the consolidation of conservative power in the Supreme Court. If I'm a good old conservative, I'm not going to fritter away that power.
Why would I immediately allow my Supreme Court and my federal judges to be diminished in their status and power? And I think there will be moments when good people of conscience will stand up. I do.
It's judges. The judges are the front line right now. It's not people in the streets as much. It's really the judges who are playing a critical role in this effort. Where do you think the Rubicon will be? On what issue and in what court? I think the one I'm most worried about is birthright citizenship.
Yeah, that was the first executive order. That was the first case we filed two hours after he signed it. They want to eliminate the right to citizenship if you are born here.
It was in the 14th Amendment. It's also in the statute. It's how we created the American citizens out of the children of slaves. It's also the way that we became a nation of immigrants and leveled the playing field. It's the great equalizer, David.
And so to go at it and say an executive order saying I'm going to repeal birthright citizenship is both trying to undo a core tenet of the Constitution and also the statutory provisions, which are equally clear. So we have belt and suspenders on when it comes to birthright citizenship. And they're trying to rip them both off. And that's what's so— And do what?
Right.
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