Anthony Romero

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127 appearances 9 recordings 2 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard Jun 2025

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If they were allowed to repeal birthright citizenship, that means that people even who are here lawfully and whose kid is born here would not be a U.S. citizen.
There would be hundreds of thousands. We have clients already in our litigation who are pregnant women whose children would be born after the date of the executive order, whose citizenship would be called into question.
And you would have this, you would create a legal vehicle for intergenerational stigma and discrimination. I mean, it's like any of us who travel to places like Germany or Japan. These countries still struggle with what it means to be a German citizen or a Japanese citizen. You see the discrimination against Koreans in Japan. That's generations.
That's because they haven't had a concept like birthright citizenship like the way we do.
It's in the First Circuit. It's in federal court.
It's a good, we picked the First Circuit. You know, we're good lawyers. So we think about the clients. I mean, there are four different lawsuits that I keep track of. Ours was the first, two hours after he signed. That means that we were working up this lawsuit. For months. Months. Identifying the clients, identifying the theories, identifying the venues, honing the pleadings.
So as soon as we could see the executive order, we could fill it in and file, literally on a federal holiday, Martin Luther King Day.
We have the attorneys general. We have many of them on the East Coast. I think there are two cases on the East Coast, one case on the West Coast. And the attorneys general are important contributions because they're making administrative arguments. Like, how the hell are we supposed to implement this? I looked at my birth certificate. I found it.
And it basically said, you know, Anthony D. Romero, son of Demetrio and Coralie Romero, born in New York City. There's no vehicle for these states to kind of corroborate the citizenship of the parents. How are they going to kind of do the administrative investigations on whether or not you're a citizen? If you lose— We ain't going to lose.
It would go up into the federal court of appeals and then the Supreme Court.
We win anyway.
No, no. I've never been this bold. I've been in my job 23 years. I don't usually predict the outcome of our cases because my heart's been broken multiple times.
No. Why? Because I think this is really, really going a step too far. I think Roberts and the majority of the court, Alito and Thomas are the only ones I can't bet on. But I think even Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett and certainly the three liberals— are there at a point where the Supreme Court would eviscerate their legitimacy among constituents and audiences that really care.
I care a lot about the Supreme Court.
No, it's birthright citizenship. The rest of it is more for grabs.
I think these other suits around congressional appropriation of funds that are now being disregarded by the executive branch. Those very well could be the precipitating factor for a constitutional crisis.
I think you keep running the gauntlet. I mean, that judge, Judge McConnell, that's the Rhode Island judge I think you're referencing. That's right. Basically, the Trump administration is arguing not that we don't have to heed you, They argue in their response to the judge, no, we are heeding you. We think your order was more limited.
The judge then clarified on Monday earlier in the week saying that, no, he had meant for them to reinstate all the grants writ large. And so this will continue to move up the food chain. The crisis moment comes when the Supreme Court rules, let's say, with Judge McConnell and says the Trump administration has fragrantly disregarded a clear judicial order and thou must comply.
And if they don't comply, then we're in a different moment. So we have to exhaust all the remedies. We have to get fines. We have to ask for incarceration of individuals who flagrantly disregard judicial orders. And that includes? That includes the federal agency heads.
If he himself or the Vice President, sure. Sure, no one's above the law. Right? Right.
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