Antoinette Lattouf

layers and layers and layers and layers.

Maybe it's that we're kind of used to it or in the position.

Like all the women that were supporting you publicly all have either gone through things or are already firm and clear about their political beliefs very publicly.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, I'll spin back.

Even though you obviously had the point of going, I've won no matter what, did you have moments –

During the trial where you were just certain, nah, I've lost everything.

And I don't even mean I've lost the case.

Oh, yeah.

So many times.

Like I think about Lisa Wilkinson with this recent quote unquote win that the Bruce Lerman defamation trials are now done.

And I think about how people say even though Brittany Higgins has now been effectively bankrupted.

from defamation cases against her as well, people go, oh, well, you know, but Bruce Lerman losing is actually a win and I don't see that as a win at all.

I see that as years and years of trauma for everyone involved.

For better or do you think it's been because I also don't want to do this bullshit.

I don't know.

Starving children to death, not cool.

Yes, but it shows the power of the media and these lobbyists that they could have turned at least a significant portion of the public against you, well, including the public broadcaster.

even though your mental health is being affected by this paranoia, by the threats, obviously they are the major things.