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Arash Azizi

πŸ‘€ Speaker
481 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Iranian final minister wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post and called Trump a man of peace.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

He has started writing the Trumpish tweets in which he attacked Tim Biden.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

and praised Trump effectively.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And this is the same Trump who had killed Iran's top general four years before that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So obviously there are many who thought Trump is an opportunity and they could use it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Yeah, and there are many who are interested in the economic opportunities that a reopening could bring.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

you know, it's a mix of a carrot and a stick, is that the carrot can be huge, you know, you can have huge economic benefits, but they also understand the alternative is this continued economic ruination that I spoke about.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

The question is if they're bold enough to pursue it and to get a deal, and if the other side is flexible enough, but I always say this is the thing that we need to remember.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

United States will be fine if it deals with Iran, if it doesn't deal with Iran,

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

You know, it will be fine.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It's the United States.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I mean, it has tons of other issues and problems, but it's not like whether it has ties with Iran or not is like a central big issue for it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

But this is Iran's life really depends on it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

This is the historic moment for Iran.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

One of the most historic moments in 2,500 years of Iranian history, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It's how it could come out, crawl out of this.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And on one side, it could become a country that is integrated into the region, economically doing much better,

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

it would be the biggest economic sort of frontier since the fall of the Soviet Union if it opens up.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

That's one vision.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And I'm not even talking about democracy, but just economic opening.