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Arash Azizi

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481 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

But we gave this up in 2002.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And we told you, if you end the occupation, we'll give you full recognition.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And we brought all Arab countries to say this too.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And in fact, we brought all Muslim countries, including Iran, signed on the dot.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Although Iran didn't really practice in reality, but it signed on the dot of the Organization of Islamic Countries endorsement of the Arab Peace Initiative of 2002.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So I think countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and others have this attitude toward Israel that, look, you're puberistic, you occupy different countries in the region, you act...

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And Israel has really, I mean, look at the way Israel has acted to Turkey, actually.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It's a good example of being sort of a crazy, hubris policy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Turkey has done so much for Israel.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Turkey is still, throughout this war and everything, keeps delivering oil to Israel.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Turkish intelligence forces have worked closely with Mossad to dispel so many sort of things against it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

But because politics is now done on Instagram and Twitter all the time,

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Israeli leaders talk about Erdogan and Turkey as if this is like some crazy Islamist state like that is trying to destroy Israel every day.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It's just not true.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So why would you, and if you look at Israeli history, it was anything but, it was the exact opposite.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Israeli diplomats

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

you know, they would go talk to a country which had said 80% anti-Israel things, 20% moderate things.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

They would latch on those 20% things and also thank you and they'll try to expand ties on that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

From that, you've gone to a place where Israel is, you know, impervious to Saudi Arabia, to Turkey, to others.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So I think it's a very concerning situation and that has potential with kind of, there is also nationalist radicalization in Israel as potential for further clashes.