Arash Azizi

Then there are these domestic apps, which are unsafe because they're controlled by the regime.

But it is possible to talk to people who won't mind basically being monitored, frankly, which is a surprisingly high number of people.

Yes, there were some people who had this, what I understand to be naive idea that the war will, you know, collapse the regime.

You know, when you say FDD or others, President Trump himself...

figures in Iran opposition, they all say this to people.

People will believe them.

You know, they turn on the TV.

They're like all these most powerful people in the world tell them the regime is going to collapse and you're going to be free.

So they'll believe it.

So many people did believe it.

And they quickly soured, basically, because they saw it's not happening.

Right now, honestly, I think people are dealing more than anything with this gaping

economic catastrophe.

I mean, can you imagine you're anything in Iran today?

Unless you actually just have money.

You know, if you're a minority who's just rich, and I know people like that, they're living their life.

They don't actually, you know, they have crazy parties,

Because the idea is like apocalypse maxing, right?

They're like, there might be a war.

Everything might get destroyed.