Arden Zwelling

No, absolutely.

And that was somewhat out of necessity, I think you would admit, because the Blue Jays did not, you know, they had several relievers down, like Louie and Tyler Rogers.

Well, Tyler Rogers wasn't available.

I think Louie Farland was available only if there was a save opportunity.

And Hoffman wasn't available.

So it was kind of like it had to be Fisher.

But if we're talking about like...

September game, you really need to win a high leverage against the Yankees at Yankee stadium.

I don't know if Braden Fisher is really in that like inner circle of trust in the bullpen at the moment.

Right.

His flexibility is just so valuable.

There's no spot you can't put him into.

And that's just so valuable in the sixth and seventh and eighth.

Yeah and so that's why I think you just leave your options like you just leave things as undefined as possible and you just give yourself more flexibility and more workability to navigate your way through late in the game because I know this is hard like for people to imagine right now because we just haven't seen it yet but there are likely to be times that Louis Varlin struggles there are likely to be times when he isn't Mason Miller light that's likely to happen so

There may be times when Jeff Hoffman is bailing Louis Varland out of an inning.

That's very possible.

A reliever is incredibly volatile and things turn on a dime all the time.

Yeah, he has overcome a lot in his big league career.

Former top prospect as a starter for the Blue Jays over 10 years ago.

and then gets traded in the Rockies deal.