Ava Berger

And the one point that stuck with me was from a statement that Interlochen released.

And it said they did not allow unsupervised contact with donors or students.

And it just didn't make sense in my head how that could be a policy when we knew that Epstein had met two campers and gone on to have relationships with them.

So I was trying to find details that explained that.

What could tell us how Epstein got access?

How he was able to have a lodge in the cabin?

How he was able to get in contact with these young girls?

And...

Those were the details I was looking for.

Because I think when we look through so many pages of documents and anyone who looks through things, you have to have something in your head that grounds you into why is this important?

Why does this matter?

And to me, it mattered because...

It was so horrifying to think that I went to a summer camp growing up, that these young girls who loved and trusted this place could end up in the situation they were in, which is they met Epstein and Maxwell and were in their orbit for years.

So part of it was using other documents to verify what we were seeing.

But a big part of it is, is actually my conversations with these, I talked to two former administrators, were really, a lot of them was me saying, do you remember this?

What does this specific detail mean?

What did you mean by this?

Why did you tell Epstein and Maxwell this?

And a lot of that doesn't make into the story because we are just trying to confirm with people who were there at the time.

So that was a huge part of our corroborating the details.