Baran Erkel

And Research Hub is a product where you need the whole org to use it to get a lot of value.

And, you know, this Kate is one of, you know, bringing it into Atlassian a long time ago.

It's not something 1PM just necessarily brings in.

You need kind of a real executive sponsor there.

So we think the combination will be very good for Research Hub and allow for more investment.

Yeah, I mean, and we're hoping the change is very positive, right?

We're hoping that the change that does happen, we are hoping that people choose to use user interviews and user testing together because it is the best experience and an amazing experience, but not because they have to and not because if for whatever reason they choose not to, they won't be able to.

So there'll be a lot of choice and we think just more positive investment and innovation across both products.

Yeah, I think that's exactly it.

You know, there will be still the ability to buy user interviews directly and, you know, on its own.

But then they will also, like Brown said, be bundles.

And then for people that have user testing already, they'll have, you know, easier access to user interviews, a research hub or the or the recruit participants.

So, yeah, it's one company.

We're going forward together, but

We want to meet researchers where they are.

And for, I mean, we have so many researchers who are now going in between the products back and forth, trying to send participants to user testing and you're using your research hub with user testing and, you know, our schedulers are running into each other.

It's going to be a really good experience for all, for everyone using both of them as well.

No, I think they're going to remain.

They're going to be there.

People can continue to use them or use user interviews with user testing through a more direct connection.