Barbara Dreaver

Why don't you just write a feature story and sell it to Northern South or something?

And I was like, this is not, you know.

So I sort of went away a bit bruised and thought, maybe it's not for me.

And then I got the call from Mary.

And I think suddenly I got excited again about it.

And so I then started writing, you know, themes.

And I thought instead of doing a sort of a time thing, which would be really difficult.

I'd do it in themes like disasters and things that really have touched me and joy.

So I thought I'd rather do that.

So when I was doing the little subtitles under each section, I really enjoyed that because I was remembering the stories and some of them are funny.

At different points, definitely.

There's been moments where, you know, I'm strong in myself and determined to... Because I like giving people a platform.

You know, their voice is a platform and Pacific people don't get that.

So...

I really was fighting for that but yes yeah there's been many moments during my career where I've had to think really fight for it and sometimes it gets exhausting and we all know that feeling don't we so yeah in different you know different ways and so yes it was it was quite it was just another knock back and so when Mary rang and said we'll do it I it it

It made me remember why, okay, yes, let's do this.

Yeah, and it's great because –

It's just so important to me, Pacific.

The reason I wanted to do it is because I wanted to share, you know, we live in such a turbulent world, don't we?

We do.