Barbara Dreaver

And I wanted to share that the Pacific is so important for New Zealand

And I wanted to share its challenges, its beauty, the ugliness side of it, but the joy of it as well.

And I thought if I could just infuse a bit of that into everyday Kiwis' lives.

And, of course, it's going elsewhere.

It's going to Australia and other places as well.

It's out for sale in the Pacific and further afield.

So I thought if I could infuse that in and people can just be, even just for as long as they read it,

just feel something, then that's great.

No, we're the front.

That's our front, yeah.

The Pacific is New Zealand's front yard.

Of course.

I'm quite proud of New Zealand and the Pacific though.

So I think we've done, you know, we should never be comfortable.

Okay.

Right.

We should never be comfortable because if we're comfortable going into a situation, we don't try hard enough.

And we have a job, we've got great resources and we need to treat the Pacific with respect as well.

And it goes two ways.

Like, it's got to go two ways.