Barbara Dreaver

And you work with some more than others, but I've always found them to be a great bunch of people and I'm very lucky and blessed to have had them as part of this journey.

And I love it when they buy into the story as well and they're,

They get outraged because then they film it better, you see.

They do.

And so that's why I talk to them about the story in depth so that they understand and they understand why I'm so passionate about the story.

It's so important.

And then they get it.

And if they get it, then they shoot the most beautiful pictures.

So that's why I'm so linked to them.

And the Wellington crews, the Christchurch crews, they're all amazing.

They're good human beings.

Mm-hmm.

Have you stepped into that role?

I think, you know, it's so interesting.

We were so different in how we approached the Pacific.

He taught me how to do beautiful scripting.

I don't think I'm quite where he was with the scripting.

I mean, he was incredible and he was very generous with his technical expertise and stuff.

In terms of the Pacific, I know a lot about the Pacific, and that is my ground, and I've had so many years in it now that, yeah, I'm definitely – and, of course, I approach the Pacific different than you did –

So when we worked together, he would do the event-driven stories and I would come to the table with my own stories.