Bart Butler
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 16 Jul
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We have no discretion here.
And this would be the case for any, but we have arranged the system
such that we think it is one of the safest that can be constructed and stay legal.
I think a lot of this stuff, at some point, it's going to be up to people.
Right.
We've done the best we can.
And I don't think, you know, it's never going to people are going to have different opinions about what which requests are legitimate or not.
But we've done the best we can in saying that, OK, the Swiss authorities will decide we will comply with whatever they say, because we are we are a Swiss jurisdiction.
In the meantime, we do and can and arrange our and this, of course, there are laws that govern this, but we do whatever we can to minimize the amount of data that we can give.
Right.
I mean, payment data is sort of there's not we can encrypt it and then we use payment processors like they can get it.
They can get it from lots of different sources.
So if you have a if you have a credit card attached and there's a legal request coming in, there's not a whole lot we can do.
Right.
You mentioned systems, because I think this is important.
What's important to me and I realize this, I don't want this to sound callous for like the specific
know a specific hypothetical abusive case right that might have not been you know the the the you know mistakes can can be made of course but i want a system like the system we have which is that if the government has some sort of reasonable cause and can
convince people in a defined process to give data, yeah, the data should probably be given.
What I really worry about is that we often live in a world where you can basically, the government can instead ask, give me all your data and I'm gonna look for problems.
I'm gonna look for a crime, right?
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