Bella Freud

And then at one point, he eventually called the police on you.

What happened?

Oh, yes.

Yeah, they really were.

And the shape of things and the fit was really unbelievably good.

Your hat's on perfectly, just in time to...

Thank you so much for being on Fashion Neurosis.

It's so lovely to reminisce about times with Vivian and think about how things were and how things continue to be as well and how fashion never dies.

It's still such a source of taking you forward, and that feels very important at this time in life.

Yeah, I completely agree.

I think very much so because I always remember when Vivian started working in Italy in the 80s and she was produced by a company there and when we'd arrive and everyone was incredibly sort of

snooty about what she was wearing and they were so conventional and then when I went back a few years later everyone was wearing the clothes she had and she had had all this influence on these

people from the local village and the town and people who really were invested in their status as just, you know, making their lives a bit better.

And it was really made a huge impression to see the effect that she had and how empowering it was.

It's fantastic.

Well, thank you so much, Stephen.

Can we do part two and three?

Tomorrow, please.

Thank you.

Thank you.