Ben Fisher

Um, that's, that's in our mind sort of when we, when we do the economics, right?

Yeah, so again, quite frankly, it's so early with us.

We're making money, not fast enough.

We raised some friends and family money.

And we're at the point now, we've been trying a bunch of stuff.

I don't want to bullshit you.

And around about our stage, we're making money and we're growing.

And we're getting close to profitability.

And that's ultimately for us right now, the Holy Land.

We've kind of cheated at bootstrapping where we raised a little bit of money.

How much?

Yeah.

I raised about 300.

The purpose there was we didn't want to raise a bunch of money, but we wanted to have some money.

My partner, he's married and has two kids.

And so the focus was really on raising enough that we can do this really well.

And then depending on what market we ultimately focus on or what segment, you know, we might raise more money specifically just to fuel growth.

But we didn't want to go out and just raise a bunch of money, even though, you know, that is certainly one route.

Good.

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