Ben Greenfield

But they're legally supposed to test you.

But it's pretty easy to get testosterone without even getting a blood test.

We get a very simple panel.

Crazy.

Yeah.

It's a it's kind of a cash cow because what guy doesn't want.

Doesn't want it.

Not good.

Stand kicked in his face at the beach and be the skinny guy.

Yeah, so it's it's a great selling point But yeah, there's a lot of downstream implications the biggest one being the fertility and then especially if you're young once you're on it You're you're on.

Yes, you can get off but it's it's a good bite six months to twelve months of just kind of like fighting an uphill battle Oh the crowd feeling like you felt when you were on it.

That's crazy.

What are your T levels out these days?

Well, I supplement now

So I'm 43.

I use scrotal cream like in the morning, in the evening.

I'm about 800.

Okay.

Not like super physiological, but when I was doing Ironman triathlon and just like eating barely anything and writing, I mean...

When I say barely anything, I mean, not eating as much as I was burning, maintaining like 160, 970 pounds.