Ben Kissel

They don't do cops actually don't care.

He was becoming a true original.

I think that was what people were responding to.

But at least they made the music that brought the sex to the bed.

These guys just fucking Jimmy Savile just fucking is there.

Yeah, I mean, if they weren't, they were having sex with the guys.

Pat Boone.

Yeah, he's innocent.

This is where you really hit me for the first time.

When we were talking about this and it hit me, I was like, oh, he was too old to even be in the scene.

Yeah, he was too old to even be in the room.

He was already too old.

And he was noticeably too old.

Because, I'm sorry, guys.

I know now I'm almost 42 years old.

I didn't see the difference before.

Or I didn't see, how do I say, now it's hard for me to determine ages and stuff.

But back in the day, when you're 20 and a 35-year-old is in the room, it's like you feel it.

Like you feel like there's an authority in the room, even though you have no idea what's going on.

And that's also part of why he was so clownish and why he dressed the way that he did.