Ben Kissel

He understands to sort of like create this version of himself.

Outside of himself so that that's all people get.

And so by the time they're meeting you, you're meeting the legend Jimmy Savile.

You're meeting the outside person, Jimmy Savile.

And I do believe that's kind of one of the responsibilities of having that level of innate charm and charisma is that you have to.

Stop.

You actually have to stop them falling for you.

Legitimately, it is the responsibility of the super powerful pop figure to not manipulate everybody that is extremely vulnerable in their presence.

Very much so.

but seriously, he was way ahead of it.

The only thing Jimmy Savile ever did was when he started wearing those Oakley glasses and shit.

I know it's later on, it's episode three, but it's kind of cool, technically.

Technically, it was a cool look.

Hey, man, you're taking back the scumbag look from scumbag.

That's what I'm trying to do, dude.

Yeah, why do scumbags get all the fucking cool clothes?

Yeah, right?

And he, you know...

I legitimately am choosing to look this way because of that.

Because I feel like it'd be fun to look crazy, like a crazy person as I'm getting older.