Beth Fischer
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Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
You want to help people, you can become a paramedic. Or you can build a hospital. And I'm like, I need to build a hospital. For me, I always knew in the back of my mind this past year that I needed a staff. I needed more people to help me spread my message. So I actually created a program where I train people underneath me. You know, I trust them to give my message, teach my methodology.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And I used to have a bracelet, you know, we'd give out that would say ads equal impact. Yeah. Because I think people... Go on. Yeah, people are so scared of ads, but it's like I've helped thousands of people with my knowledge because of Facebook ads, because I've been able to reach tens of thousands of customers. So advertising is just a way to get your voice and message out there.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
So if you're listening and you have a strong voice and message and something that can change lives, ads are just going to put that forward and show everyone and help people. Yeah. Yeah, you've seen it, you know, in action. In action. And it's only just the start, right? You've doubled for ads, you said. Yeah. But you're only spending, you know, not a crazy amount.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And now you're starting to scale that. So that's exciting.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
That's right. And I'm excited to spend more. Yeah. Because again, now you see how it works. Right. Absolutely. Good. It's more people.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Good. So last couple of more like personal questions I want to throw at you. Careful questions. So biggest win in business.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Biggest win in business. I mean, it has to just be the impact that I'm making. I mean, that's when I get out of bed in the morning, I'm like, I'm ready. Like, who am I helping today? What am I doing? What ad am I going to work on? How am I going to get more people into the right method?
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Because I have to draw people away from the traditional, which is not easy to do. You know, people, again, they think marriage counseling, marriage counseling. And I'm coming going, no, no, no, no, no. Don't. You're falling off of a cliff. Come this way. Good. And that's hard. So every day I wake up thinking, how can I do that? Yeah, good.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And second one, the opposite, biggest loss or failure.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Oh, biggest loss or failure?
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
In business, you know, all mistakes you made, maybe.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
You know, I mean, I, way early on, I paid a lot of money for a course and it did, I won't say the name, but it did not go well. So that was my biggest failure. But again, you have to try a few, right? I learned, I still learned from it. You know, I try to take, you know, whatever I'm going through, whatever problems there are, there has to be a learn.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
So, yeah, I mean, I wish I hadn't spent that much money learning that lesson.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah, there can be a lesson.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Good. And last question. If people want to, you know, look into you and see the viral reels or maybe even hopefully they're not. But if the marriage needs help. Right. And they're going through something. Where do they find you?
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
My website is coachbethfisher.com. But I do have to say Fisher, we're the real old fashioned way. So it's F-I-S-C-H-E-R, but coachbethfisher.com.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
I didn't mind it, you know? But I knew I needed to do more. I needed to expand so I could reach more people.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Good, love it. Well, Beth, thanks, pleasure. How do you want? And obviously a big pleasure working with you over the last year and seeing you grow and excited to see you over the next year. So guys, you hopefully enjoyed this episode. And I really wanted to show this A to Z because you see so much of the $5 million, $10 million.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
But, you know, a lot of people we work with and love to help are getting in those earlier phases, building those teams and getting the ads going. And to me, that's like the most exciting phase as well. I love that with my new businesses. I start that first couple of million. It's great. So, Beth, it's been a pleasure. And guys, as always, keep living the red life. I'll see you soon.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Thanks.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And just to, you know, battle with a year on, you know, you've had some social media reels go viral, millions of views, which we're going to talk about today. You've started building a team. You have another coach now, sales rep. You're starting to, so you're able to help more people and obviously make more income.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And also obviously bring people on without you having to do all the selling, the onboarding and the coaching, which must be a nice feat. Yes, it is. It is. And then also, you're now in a great place, which most people never get to, where you actually have a consistent lead flow coming from the ad side versus hustling organically, referrals, affiliates, which is how most people kind of get stuck.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
So what's that year-long journey been like for you?
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Well, I remember one of the first things you ever said, one of the first events I went to, and you said, you know, you want to help people, you can become a paramedic. Or you can build a hospital. Yeah. And I'm like, I need to build a hospital. I said that? You did. That's a good quote. Yeah, yeah. So that's what I'm doing now. I'm building the hospital. Yeah, yeah.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah, I have a whole staff now, coaches, marketers, you know, just keeping that organic content going. But I'm doing paid advertising now. But it really took me getting that staff. Yeah. I couldn't do it on my, you know, on my own anymore. I mean, again, I was seeing 35 clients a week. There was no time to do much of anything else.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Well, and now you're, you know, I think we all start, a lot of us, at least coaching wise, we start as experts and people that want to help. Right. And it's like, hey, if you help 35 people a week, it's not that many people. Right. You are making a massive impact at a deep level. But now like you have a couple of, you know, reels to get millions of views.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Obviously, you're not coaching them, but you're helping thousands or hundreds of thousands of people watching that, right? Giving them hope or an idea. And sometimes it's like that drop in the ocean that creates now this ripple effect with me as people. And then obviously now you're building out courses and live Zoom options where you can help one to many versus one to one.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
So, you know, how's that felt being able to reach and help more people?
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
So you have to find people or at least a person that you trust.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
It's amazing. It's an amazing feeling to get messages and emails and testimonials that say, you know, we're still married because of you. You know, I didn't lose my kids 50% of the time because we worked with you. And the more people I can do that with, my gosh, I mean, it's just, it's changing generations.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah. And it's important work because not many people do what you do. That is correct. Do you want to just, if someone didn't pick up on it, recap what you do? Sure.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah, absolutely. So I work with couples who are going through betrayal, which is just about the worst thing you can go through as a married couple. And, you know, the statistics out there are just through the roof. Divorce rates, especially because of infidelity in a marriage. So basically what I'm doing is working with couples, but I'm turning the whole counseling thing on its head.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Most people go to marriage counseling. Because they think there's a problem in the marriage and that's why somebody stepped out. But that's not it. It really isn't about the marriage. So I'm really bringing to market, thanks to you and your team as well, you know, this whole new concept of how to actually heal. And save marriages after betrayal.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah, that's great. And, and I think it's cool having that niche because yeah, like you say, there's not many options, right? You got the typical, like, you know, obviously most people break up there and, and maybe, you know, some therapy and stuff, but I think it's much needed. And yeah,
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
I think being able to build your brand and make you that go to person is going to help you change thousands of lives. So I would love to break down the steps now. Right. So let's rewind a year. You came in, you're doing all your calls. And I remember when we started working together the first few months, it's like, hey, these are all the things we want to do.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
But you're very stuck on like, but I got all these clients that I need to serve. So someone's listening in the same manner right now where they're like in that same position. They want to start working on the company, not in the company, which is why most entrepreneurs go wrong or at least get stuck in that phase. I wouldn't say it's wrong.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
It's part of a journey we all go through, but most never get out of that room. That's right. How would you recommend or feedback to them going through it recently, getting out of that?
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah, it's not easy. You know, it's hard to give up that control, right? But, you know, for me, I always knew in the back of my mind this past year that I needed a staff. I needed more people to help me spread my message. So I actually created a program where I train people underneath me. And that's where I really started like, okay, I trust these people. Yeah, yeah. You know, I trust them to...
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
give my message, teach my methodology to the public. And that was huge. So you have to find people or at least a person that you trust.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah, and I think most great coaching programs and education programs, they have a format, a template, a flow, right? And that's so important versus just hiring someone randomly. Like, you know, if you come on in my team and coach the clients, we have a pretty basic flow of offer creation, strong offers. Okay, now you need a funnel and an ecosystem to drive traffic to.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
What's up, guys? Welcome back to another episode of Living the Red Life. Today, we have Beth on the show. She's been a client of ours for a year, gone through an epic journey of going from solo entrepreneur that was fully booked and now helping hundreds more people, building teams, impacting lives. So, Beth, welcome to the show.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Okay, now you need to actually start driving the traffic, right? That's like our kind of framework. And should be most people's framework, honestly, for an online business. And you have your kind of framework and then you get people going through it. So I think that's a great tip if you're listening, like, hey, just build your framework. Most people have it in their head.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
They don't know it's a framework though. So it's just like mapping that out, what they do with all their clients. And then that's like a hundred times easier to hire for now Because you get someone that has good soft skills and good industry knowledge, right? And good client communication and coaching. And then just say, follow my framework.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And I think that takes away a big piece of the gap of like, how do I find someone good?
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
That's right. It was the one thing that changed everything for me. Good. Giving up that control, finding somebody that I trusted.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
and letting them start helping people just like i did so we basically you know if i'm i'm not working with clients as much because i'm doing things like this now spreading the message but you know um we're multiplying yeah yeah you know the number of people that were and there's no
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
cap cap for this you know tony robbins helps thousands of people on coaching programs grant cardone uh you know has this whole 10x system and even has it in many industries now real estate wealth marketing right and that's all of his sort of stuff but now coached by his team mind valley were on my podcast a while back they've helped tens of thousands of students through their principles i've helped hundreds or thousands of one-on-one clients through my principles so
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
You know, you're in the earlier stages, starting to get one or two staff and helping hundreds, but two, three more years, it'll be thousands. And then two, three more years, hopefully tens of thousands, right? That's my plan. So, and I think one tip, what I noticed with you and I actually personally saw this too, and I know a lot of other people, the first couple of hires can be
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
like someone you know, a friend, someone that came through your program or course, right? Someone that maybe did some side work for you. So how did you, you know, finding these first few hires, how have you found those people?
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Interesting, because my first hire was through somebody that went through my stuff, my courses. She was actually a client of mine. And she also had that professional background because I'm very careful. You know, I need to make sure that there's professional credentials as well as personal going through betrayal. And then the second person that I hired on as a coach, it was certification based.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
I wanted to make sure that each of my coaches have something unique to bring to my community. Right. So another coach, the second coach has breath work. So she's got all the certifications for somatic healing. And I thought, wow, what a great addition.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Thank you so much, Rudy. It's great to be here.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
and you know to the team and then my third coach he'll come on board i'll make sure that that person is diversified as well just takes i want to be one-stop shop yeah yeah right well we do the same right someone more econ based a little as a market so still but another market is more facebook ad based another market is more coffee based right that's kind of afri coaches right now and it's a great thing because they can all do the basics but then if someone's going really down a rabbit hole in one way you can
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
So, look, let's dive into it. I really wanted you on because, I mean, it's a great case study of transitioning from that solo entrepreneur, that expert, you know, coaching, helping, changing lives. But it's like, how do I go beyond helping 50 people, right? And that's how I started as a personal trainer 15 years ago. I was helping 50 people a week and I changed their lives and it was great.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
push them that way. And, you know, if you have a client that's maybe it's a little more mindset and you eventually have a coach that's got a mindset background, great. If it's another one where it's accountability, then you've got that person. So that's a great way to do it.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah, I like that. Yeah, it's worked really, really well.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
good so next question so that's around the hiring side what about the getting client side right because you started you were getting organic you know people from socials fast forward today you've had reels get millions of views um and you know you've hopefully from has learned some of those frameworks and been very consistent and and really implemented them and i would love to talk about that because i think we mentioned it at our last event uh how many reels didn't go viral to get the viral right
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Right. And then obviously the Facebook ad size. So let's maybe start on the organic social pride.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah. Well, it took me 481 reels before I got my first reel to hit over a million. Yeah. And I've had two others since then. So I've had three reels. And, you know, really, it was controversy. Yeah. You know, it was creating a conversation.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And we went through that a couple of castle trips ago, right? I think it was. And I think at the time you were a bit nervous about doing it too.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Because it's hard. Again, it's hard to break through some of these kind of mindsets that we have, right? You don't want to offend people. You don't want to upset people, you know? But yeah, you know. And have they paid off now? Sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. Can you give a couple of examples of what you do? Sure. Yeah. So one of my taglines is cheaters can change.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
So whenever I post any reels about that, of course, the whole all the comments are like cheaters will never change. Leave. Get out now. You know, and and it literally just starts this war within the comment section. And then I just watch the war. Yeah. You know, I mean, I don't need to get involved. I don't need to defend my position, you know. So that's one of them.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And then my my second one is marriage counseling doesn't work. Yeah. Good. And holy cow. I mean, that really upsets the professional world, which is why I'm like the whistleblower. Yeah. I'm like, but it doesn't. Yeah. And when people hear my rationale for why it doesn't, they're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. It really doesn't work.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
You know, and I'm like, yeah, the average couple has seen four counselors before they come to me.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Four. And they're still looking. So we're the fifth and final.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Good. I love it. I love it. So that's the organic side. You know, guys, if you're listening, hopefully you picked up on the 480 it took to get there. That's right. But the most important part, I mean, of that, too, is once you've got one, you've had a couple more and more recent. It's not like another 480 later and then another 480. It's like how many, like 50 or 100 later you got the next one?
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
It was a few hundred later.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Okay. Yeah. Because I've had three total and I post consistently. How many times have you posted now?
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
I have over a thousand.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Okay. So statistically, probably every 300. That'd be a good number. But a lot of the other 300 are still doing well. Oh, gosh, yes. A couple hundred thousand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And your total following is what, just to give context? Yeah, 27,000. Yeah, that's a big deal. Listen to that. So 27,000, right?
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
But deep down, I'm like, I want to change millions of lives. That's right. And I learned everything I did and, you know, I'm on my way to doing that. And now you are too.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And I started from zero. I didn't even have an Instagram account.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And what were a few things you learned working with us for the year on socials and your own experience?
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Sure. I think for the organic side, it had to be consistency.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Consistency. You know, in the beginning, I was very consistent. I only used one platform. I picked one and dominated it. Yeah. I put all my energy into that. So it was Instagram. And then, you know, then I, you know.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
And then you can joke that and reuse. Yeah.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Repurpose is another tool that I didn't really realize you could do. I kind of thought it was cheating. Yeah. And then when you guys were like, no, you haven't.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
I mean, you already did the work. It's just like copying it over.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Put it on TikTok. Put it on YouTube. So, you know, recently I started a YouTube channel. And, you know, yeah, repurposing was a huge lesson for me.
Living The Red Life
How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Well, it's like it's harder to build the first McDonald's than like, okay, now we know how it should look. Let's copy it, right? It's kind of how it is with content. It's like the hard part was figuring out the viral hook and getting it working and filming it. We might as well reuse it in a blog, an email, post it on TikTok, YouTube, get on a podcast about that topic. And it's like, boom.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Everything you just said, you taught me and I followed.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Good. Yeah. Well, that's one great thing about you is you, you know, and I think someone that is a coach is generally more coachable as well. Right. Because, you know, I always say I'm a great student. Yeah.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah. Thanks to you. I am. Absolutely. You know, I was doing coaching one-to-one private sessions with clients. I, you know, I'm basically a counselor working with couples and I was seeing seven clients a day, five days a week. And they were one-hour sessions? One-hour sessions. I mean, there were days I didn't have time to go to the bathroom, you know? Oh, yeah. But it was a passion. Sure.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Tell me what to do. I will do it.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah. Good. So last thing, you know, big thing I want to talk about is the ad side. Right. So, you know, I obviously a lot of people come to me because I'm good at ads and have that experience and well known for that. And, you know, there's a lot to learn, but it can be manageable. It's not too overwhelming. So talk about your experience there with the ads. Scared.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
I was petrified because I had built everything from scratch. I built everything organically, never did a dime for two years in any advertising. So, yeah, joining, you know, your team, it was like, oh, OK, now it's time to really spend some money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I had to make that shift in my own mind. If I don't spend the money, people are going to still hurt.
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
I have to spend the money in order to get them to get to me so that they can get the help that they need, the help that I know they need. So it was a mindset shift, you know, but I did. As soon as I started really focusing on Facebook ads, I doubled my revenue. I mean, that's not why I do this, but doubling that revenue means double the people that
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How to Build a Team You Can Rely On w/Betrayal Trauma Expert Beth Fischer
Yeah, I say revenue and money is just a form of impact in my eyes, right? Like 99% of the time, it's hard to build a big company if you're not changing lives, right? Of course, there's a few outliers that scam and stuff. But in theory, if you're doubling and then quadrupling and then 10x-ing your revenue, that's 10 times more clients you've helped. That's exactly right. That's how I look at it.