Beth Macy

You know, she loves my children.

And she's maybe not accepting of who they are as people.

They're both queer.

But she loves them.

And I was surprised recently.

I stopped in to visit her because she had bought a condo.

And I said, oh, there's my kids on your kitchen bulletin board.

She said, of course I put their pictures up.

I love them.

And we hadn't really spoken much since the interview because it was rough.

Well, we meet at her oldest daughter's house, and I start out with things we can agree on.

I read her some letters that our hilarious mom wrote, and we laughed.

And we looked at old pictures.

She brought some photo albums.

I mean, I like to do that with people I'm interviewing.

It helps people remember things.

And then we got into the stuff with Liza and we had a fairly reasonable conversation about it.

She didn't really shy away from it.

And then it had gone so well.

I mean, it had been like two and a half hours and I had to go meet my friend Betty for dinner and I'm packing up my stuff to go.