Beth Macy

And I thought, I'm just going to ask her about Max because I had announced on put a thing on Facebook that with the picture of my son Max, who was getting ready to marry his fiance, Zach.

And, you know, and no one in my family liked it except for my sister, Terry, one like nobody reached out.

Nobody congratulated me.

And so I and, you know, Max, after he came out in college, stopped going home to Ohio with me.

And he told me later it was because he was worried what Cookie would say to him and that then I would have to go off on her.

And he didn't want that to happen.

So, yeah.

So as I'm packing up, I say, you know, Cookie, Max thinks you don't like him because he's gay.

And she says, I love him, but I don't like that he's gay.

And then kind of all my rural urban bridge training went out the window and my face turned red and I kind of lost composure.

And we start arguing about Leviticus and your theology versus my theology.

And then finally I take a deep breath and I say,

I'm thinking of Mr. Rogers.

Use your words.

And I said, Cookie, I'm getting really mad.

I guess if we're going to have any relationship at all, we shouldn't talk about this.

And later, a little bit later, she says, well, did he get made fun of when he was in school?

And I said, well, if you'll remember when he was three and four, he'd go to preschool wearing red ruby slippers and a cape.

He had me sew for him.

And she goes, yeah, I remember.