Bozoma Saint John

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183 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Jan 2025 last heard Mar 2025

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Absolutely, absolutely. But that's also, like I said, part of the learning of this, you know, which is just like, I don't have to have had things complete in order to move to the next thing. I'm sure there are people who would look at my career and say, oh, but you haven't done that thing yet. Don't you think you should do that before you retire? But like, do I need it? Probably not.
And so it's like, why continue? Why continue to do that thing? So again, I think a lot of it really just has to do with self-reflection at the end of the day.
you know, listening to your own spirit, listening to your own needs and wants, and making sure that you're not lying to yourself, you know, based on the stories that other people have told you, based on narratives that are running around the planet that you've accepted. as the truth and maybe we're lies. You know what I mean?
So I feel like there's such an opportunity for me too, you know, to re-look at everything and yes, be a healthier human and focus more on like, yeah, my physical health. And focus on my relationship with my daughter, you know, explore the planet in ways that I haven't before.
You know, like in 2022, I did a little Instagram reel about this that I, every month last year, I worked out in a different country.
Yeah.
It was fantastic.
But, you know, it was like, God, what a dream, you know, to be in a place where I'm financially secure enough to do that.
Where I have the time to do that.
Yeah. And to take advantage of it now.
Yeah.
Man, because like, what am I going to do when I'm 75? Well, hopefully I'll still be working out and still healthy. But you know what I'm saying? Like... Waiting for that is not the answer. So even in that I have urgency.
You know, I understand why somebody would say that, you know, like you should always be hungry, like you should always be chasing. That's a good motivator, you know, to get the next thing so that you wake up and you want to go get it. But that's a terrible way to live. It's a complete I vehemently disagree with the concept that you should never be satisfied. You should be satisfied.
You should be satisfied. You should wake up feeling satisfied with your life. It doesn't mean that you don't want the next thing. Of course you want the next thing. But if life were to end today, would you want to have lived an unsatisfied life? I really do think of Peter at those last days. You know, and think about all the things that he was unsatisfied about. I don't want that for myself.
I don't want that for you. I don't think any of us should live that way. So be satisfied. You know, and that doesn't mean lesser than.
Yes, be satisfied. Be satisfied with like how wonderful You have it. You know, even the least of us, even the people who are like, you know, in this terrible place, like I said, like we can't be satisfied. Like the day after Peter died, actually no, it was a few days later because we were having his funeral. He died on December 11th, 2013. It was four days before his 44th birthday.
And so on his 44th birthday, December 15th, we had his funeral and made it a party. And I was sitting there and, you know, kind of in a haze. But then also, you know, that moment of clarity where I'm looking around the room and like his fraternity brothers are drinking beers and they're sharing stories about him. And, you know, my daughter's like sleeping on my mom's lap.
And I've got my sisters like in the corner trying to busy themselves, you know, like getting out plates of food and whatnot and see people connecting.
and it was the oddest thought you know i looked around i was just like wow like this is a this is a good this is a good group of people you know this is a great place to be to have this and so i was satisfied in that moment the most terrible thing had happened in my life but i was looking around and feeling very satisfied with who I had around me.
And that I think is what I would like for all of us to consider. That even when things are bad and going wrong, you can still be satisfied. You can still feel like, this is it and it is okay.
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