Brad Beeler

And seeing Bill do that from start to finish showed how he was an investigator, how he could communicate, show how he knew what our protective methodology would be.

And it was really eye opening for me to see that excellence.

And I wanted from that point on, I want to be a great communicator.

Yeah, he was arrested.

I think there was some mitigating circumstances because of his age.

He was an older individual.

And looking at the totality of the circumstances, I think he probably got probation.

But yeah, it was one of those things where as a new agent, it was scary because that's the stuff you learn about in school.

And the fact that it happened right before the visit was the time-sensitive nature.

But that made a drastic impact on, man, I want to get good at this.

yeah connection is everything and once again this goes back to the my other love for communication which my best friend being deaf uh since i was 15 so for the last 45 odd years i've had to really connect with him and when i mean connect i'm talking about looking people in the eyes and using all forms of communication just not just the words you use but how you say the words how you look somebody in the face and how you use that body language with somebody and i think

Having been in the Secret Service and with Polygraph, having interrogated thousands of people, you realize that it's not what you see in the movies as far as the bright light, the disrespect, the banging on the table.

It's truly connecting with somebody and allowing them to have the space to tell you the truth.

Because it's not the fact that people are going to lie to you.

They're going to lie to you.

It's what is the lie?

Why are they lying?

And once you understand why somebody's lying, a lot of times what they'll do is they'll tell you the what.

Well, I think, Mike, if you look back on the last 10 or so years of you doing this podcast and 10 or so years before that being on the radio, I think back about how you prepare for a good podcast episode, right?

You request a book or whatever about the subject that you meet.