Brendan O'Connor

Why do you just want to go with that?

Well, this is going to take a little bit of a discussion.

It's going to take a few of these things to kind of to happen and come into your relational life.

But once they do and they've happened and everyone, the system will fall back into it.

OK, so that will be the new balance.

You'll have to force a little bit, push back against it and it will recalibrate again.

And different generations as well there and everything.

And is that kind of thing gone?

Because we do imagine Maine as a place of communities and of people who've been embroiled together for generations.

I think, honestly, it's one of the most corrosive things you can do is to withdraw emotionally from someone.

And that that creates a collective.

And I work with teenagers particularly is when parents are dissatisfied with their child, they stonewall them silence.

Yeah.

Okay.

White?

What you could be looking at there is an avoidant attachment, right?

So someone who developed in whatever way, they might have gone to boarding school, whatever it was in their formation, they might have had a parent or primary caregiver that kind of did also the same to them as a child.

Yeah, yeah.

And I think it's possibly to do with the hollowing out of the economies in places like that as well, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah.