Brendan O'Connor

So they're the big forces, right?

And so they learned to hold their emotions.

They learned to withdraw emotions when things become difficult.

And then Artie asks this question,

complicated or emotional or that was their intervention for complexity or emotional kind of surge, right?

he starts bothering people with this question that, you know, at a cocktail party initially, the guy just literally turns around and goes, is there such a thing as free will?

Is to withdraw.

That's how they kind of regulate themselves or I don't know.

No, I'd have to talk to this person.

But that's generally what you'd meet.

I'll be sitting down with my partner when there's no tension there and figuring out, you know, when you utilize silence,

And it's not a thing most people think about.

But then you go, well, of course there isn't because we're just being buffered around by all these forces.

What are you communicating to me?

Because we cannot not communicate, so we're always communicating.

Do you think we have much less agency and choice than we think we do?

What are you trying to communicate to me there?

And when you get language for that, I would say, is it very difficult for you to say that to me rather than withdrawing?

Yeah.

And I explain, well, what I feel when you go silent...