Brie Player

But his latest albums have not hit in the same way that the earlier works did.

Now, I also think that with songs, and I've been to, and he talks about there's many weddings where his music is used as the first dance song.

And there's something about that then, like, they become a bit twee, right?

Yes, yeah, yeah.

I mean, it's just, you know, once it's played out and it's everyone's song, then it's no one's song, is it?

Talk about it.

Like where the entire thing is just like this mess of a relationship dynamic and it's still – like it will hit forever.

Yeah, and it's brilliant and it's so crushing and it's like still hits all these years later and it's just –

incredible yeah and it's like it's just about putting words to the things we all understand as human beings and that is the one yeah unifier that we all have I think as well like people look to music to kind of like explain the feelings that they're having and to really live in like when they're like wallowing the music can help soothe it understands them it also then becomes like kind of a soundtrack to your own life your own life and to that experience and I think

As a Taylor fan, you can look back and go, like, oh, I had this, like, crushing heartbreak when Red came out and that album, like, it healed it.

Yeah.

Like, that healed me, you know?

Yeah.

But, yeah, it's going to be hard.

I'm interested to see what she does too and to see where she takes this.

And I'm also interested to hear a love song from her as well.

The other one who I'm really interested to hear because she's got an entire body of work that is like devastating love songs and breakups and whatever is Lana Del Rey.

Oh, yeah, you love Lana.

I love Lana.

She has a great pen, like what a writer.