Brie Player

her highest performing album.

So commercially it was a massive, massive success.

It has had a lot of critique about the writing and the songs on it.

It is certainly not my favourite album.

I enjoy it.

I have a good time with it and then I listen to it and then I go back and put Poets on and listen to that on repeat like I always do.

I prefer The Heartbreak and I will often say this that, and I've heard, you know, the idea that like Travis Kelsey is not a great muse, right?

Now I...

I would say as her friend, I'm really happy for her.

But as her fan, I'm devastated that she's with Travis.

Wow.

I wish we were friends.

And it's probably like, if I keep saying things like that, we'll never be friends.

But like, I love the heartbreak.

I love the way she says that she writes the bad man the best.

Yes.

And I think this is the thing when it's like a song and like Ed Sheeran, and he's really another great example of this, like that when he was on The Up and his first few albums, there was a lot of like heartbreak, sadness, falling in love, and they were universal themes.

And then he's got this like, well, happy marriage, although when he did the second, the deluxe version of his latest album, he did allude to the fact that they'd had some marriage struggles and whatever.

Yeah.

Yeah, interesting.