Caitlin Green

Why do you think this movement is...

Is it popular, though, or is it just getting press because it's so out there?

Like, is it really legions and legions of young men following these guys, or is it just a small group, but they're particularly loud and particularly odd that they're getting this attention?

I mean, I want to say like, I'm so not plugged into the like manosphere of like online male culture that I learn about these things through headlines, through like a story like this about him being arrested.

And then I figure out how big of a deal it is based on how much money they're making based on how many subscribers they have.

And so his online footprint and following is, is fairly large.

Um, but it isn't really like, it's not in my world.

Like if you're sitting here listening to us going, what are these two people talking about?

That's, that's also normal.

Because I think if you're a certain age, this is none of your business and you're like, loop me out.

But then they start getting arrested and then they become very, very wealthy and people will pay attention to them.

Or you have kids who subscribe to them.

That's another thing.

Parents are finding out that their kids are subscribing to these people that they all of a sudden become very dissatisfied with their looks as a result.

And I just think young men are already, I don't know, falling prey to so much garbage online that's making them unhealthy.

Like you really didn't need to add this into the mix.

So this incident, this looks maxer influencer who I'm not naming, he rented out a house in Florida.

Somehow two women end up fighting in the house.

Was he involved in provoking them?

That we don't know.