Calley Means

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1,357 appearances 15 recordings 7 series first heard Oct 2024 last heard 9 Apr

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And the book, the book, is not about Froot Loops, Jack. It's not.
Absolutely.
It's just very... Guys, guys, I think the problem is... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. It's called the Hegelian dialect. Dude, dude, dude. And the place that he used to work specializes in it. You know what also is a tactic? To throw around bullshit to cause doubt on people and say that people are connected. But that's why we're here, Callie, for you to call bullshit on it.
I am not here for you. I'm here because there's a lot of people listening. It's not about me that are skeptical of this. I think we have a generational opportunity. I have a lot of respect for you. I think you are seeing a lot of pain. Jack, I think your thoughts on the science are often very brilliant. And, you know, I don't really have any debate for them other than
The stack ranking, I mean, you know, listening to hours of your stuff, I just think it's like, you know, completely dismissing food. I mean, maybe it's stack. It is. There's no question about it. I'll agree with you 100%. Dismissing food is a factor. Yeah, it's about five or six on the list. Well, that might be true.
I have zero issues with it. Can I ask you, what's the result of what we're trying to do then if we're connected with Rockefeller and trying to subvert this agenda and bring the- What are we- Why would I- Not focusing on the right things.
Why would I then work just to bring these issues so much into the, why would I just cast on the broken leg?
uh we we just there's a there's a technique called misdirection it's a war it's a war technique right and it just kind of all falls into place but but but but but gaming this out so so we write a book of history in the pharmaceutical industry we go on podcasts of history in the pharmaceutical industry i think you're giving me way too much credit but i do whatever i help to put these ideas to how he did the pharmaceutical uh industry distribute the job
Well, my sister, my sister, as you might know, is, you know, I think said stuff from the heart that's impacted people and is not, you know, as much in the day to day of this political thing. I'm very passionate about. Jack, about figuring out how to create and think about policies that accomplish goals that I'm pretty sure that we're all aligned with in the most fast and radical way.
Again, I strongly believe that that is, when it comes to pharmaceutical products, having an emphasis the next six months on a radical transparency agenda. I do think that is- And see, I disagree with you on that. But I've made that case. I've already made the case. But I've actually done something that you haven't done. Well, Jack, I'm working to do stuff. We both are.
Eradicate what? All the vaccines. My goal is to eradicate chronic disease and...
and not you know do you want to chat I mean I'm not trying to be like I you were giving me way too much credit but like
like let's figure out the best strategy to get your research out there and get a path to what you think could happen i mean i mean there are like like like like i feel like my story is that actually talking about any type of strategy you feel is not this is my story i'm not saying that your thing is is like not um is almost like suspicious if you're talking about any type of like
Like, as a definitive statement, no, I do not think the platform of everyone in government right now to immediately pull everything, I do not think that's the appropriate political feasibility.
No, no, no, no. Getting something done in this generational moment is about politics. I have to say, Mary, it is. Yeah, I disagree with that, too.
Jack, we're on, we're on like, like I think the fact that, I mean, honestly, my main issue is like, we're kind of thinking about maybe even different, like, like I think it's perfectly appropriate to ask. And this is frankly not where Casey's thinking. Casey's thinking about more of a spiritual level. Like I'm thinking more about like what can be done in the next year.
And, you know, that's different than like what the moral imperative is. I'm telling, I feel a ton. I know you see the kids and people every day and that's harrowing. Like, I feel like I have a pretty deep, you know, concern for what's happening to America's children and like what's happening to America. I think we're, we're being slaughtered right now.
And like, I think, I think what I am, where my brain goes is like how to translate that into reality.
into policy now there could be big disagreements with that and there should be massive like outside agitation and challenging on everything but like the uh the immediate going to like that we're working with rockefeller and like you know i know the point that i tried to make to you earlier and i don't think you've done a good job but okay the cool thing is the audience will decide this well where are you ignorance well you think i'm ignorant
Then why would our central message be eviscerating the pharmaceutical industry?
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