Calley Means
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard 9 Apr
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So I had a real strong sense from my experience that maybe there was a different road to go after the shooting. You know, when COVID, I mean, pharma was ready. Pharma was ready during COVID to insert an agenda. When these unexpected things happen, you know, there's an opportunity to maybe reset the deck in a positive or negative way. So I...
was nervous but i decided to just call him for 20 seconds and mention that um and then um he thought about it and and ended up starting that conversation i mean that was a 20 second yeah kennedy that was a 20 second conversation that i'm a very you know that was kennedy you know just um thinking about and decided and they had you know they ended up i think forming a really important bond um
That was going to go to the grave. And then he mentioned that in a speech. I had no desire ever for that to be public. And he mentioned that in his concession speech. And then we shared some ideas with him during the campaign. And then that's pretty much it. I mean, like, yeah.
So, totally disagree with you on... what you said about Bobby, but on the, on the macro dynamic of the lobbyists and these dark interests forming the realms of acceptable debate. I think we, we do agree on that. I mean, that, that's a real concern. I think, you know, we have in health, this kind of, they call it the healthcare economy. It's like, it's like already, you know, you see this pressure.
It's like anything radical to actually change the health program. Oh, it's going to hurt jobs. It's going to do, I mean, it's, it's really complicated, really nefarious. I, to me, to me, I don't think it's that complicated.
His message?
I don't know if that's a message. I think what you just said is true. I think what you said is something I'm dealing with, which is that I believe that something really positive happened during the campaign and people were woken up on health and why I called and what my framework has been and if I have any master plan, what it's been.
It's been that to weaponize and make change with what we're all saying, and I think what we actually agree with on general principles on where health needs to go, it needs to be politically important. It needs to be politically popular. People need to see it as a politically important voting bloc.
The problem is... No, no, no, Jack. Campaigns are one with talk. No, Jack. Hold on, hold on. You want to win people's hearts? Actions. I'll be quick. I'll be quick. It's not. Health has not been a politically important issue. People vote on issues like guns, abortion, like really hot topic issues. I do believe the Maha movement made health actually a voting issue.
That's a health issue. Right, I agree. I'll be 30 seconds.
That's the problem we have with you. Okay. Well, just speak for yourself, but okay. The Maha movement catalyzed, I think, a new coalition of voters that came to President Trump. First-time women voters, independents. I think Bobby Kennedy and the Maha movement had an impact on the campaign. That gives political currency. And this isn't anything about Trump or anyone. This is just politics.
That gives political currency to actually get something done. Now, exactly as you said, you have to bash your head against the wall against this crazy, corrupt, ingrained bureaucracy to get anything done. And it's much, much, much harder. The campaign was great. I think it was really positive. It's much, much harder now to get something done. And it seems like maybe we've got two leaders.
It seems like it seems like maybe that this debate or this whole question is like, should we be giving up on Bobby and Trump on the health agenda? Because it's going to get hard. It absolutely is going to get hard. And I think ideally we're all supportive and not, you know, kind of all.
You name it. Guys, we've talked about this 50 times. I'm not standing in your way of any of this information getting out or that policy getting done. I think it should get out. I don't know what you want from me. It is not my issue. I'm being educated on it.
I fully support that information getting out and that being part of a policy process for any pharmaceutical product that's killing a bunch of people. Generally, I think politically it's important. I absolutely not coming out with ideas on food bans. I think we should have mass transparency. I think start with that from a tactical perspective.
I think if, if a drug is killing millions of people or hundreds of thousands of people, we should have that information out immediately. You guys should not have your voices silenced. I think that's why Elon and free speech is extremely important to this. And I think nobody's saying your way on that. I'm certainly not like, like, like I don't know what you want.
You're acting like it. Killing millions. You've never heard that before. Let's just be more positive.
Well, I think personally that they do. And I think it's insane to give them to kids. I haven't gotten boosters or anything. And, you know, I think that's step one. I think there should be absolutely no mandates.
You talked to your sister? Yeah, yeah. I mean, we're all, you know, yeah. Did you take the shot? Did you take it? I took the first time, yes. So let me ask you a question.
Wait a minute.
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