Calley Means
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard 9 Apr
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Which I think is unacceptable and anti-science. But it fits. But it's the world we live in. It's normalized.
I think anything, obviously, anything that the powers that be that you have a lot of distrust for, both you guys and should, are like preventing the American people and infantilizing them from asking questions about is a huge, huge red flag. And I think... Not just with health, but what Trump is talking about with this Elon and everything. It's like getting more sunlight out.
I think, again, Jack, I'm not saying I'm not aware of the crazy forces and the huge reasons to be pessimistic, but I do think... I'm giving you more credit now because you are walking a very fine line.
Jack, so... You know, okay. There's... I see it as this coalition of many different perspectives coming together. And I think you guys, and one of the reasons I wanted to come here is because I appreciate connecting with you. I knew your heart was just totally fighting for your patients. That was so clear to me.
and i think you i in my head you share a similar desire i have which is we're warriors and trying to and and and jack i i know in many places your heart you're you're i you've suffered a lot you've been you know taken a lot of arrows much more than i have and and are fighting for this i've seen myself as one person not supplanting anything but just trying to help and i think one way
you know, this can really be positive is to wake, you know, and, and as many people as possible up. And, and I, you know, I don't think we should have incremental change, but I think, you know, I think, I think you guys would probably agree with it. We got, we got a shot like in the next two years. I think if, if we don't get some progress and, And I believe it's more holistic. I do. I don't.
I think it's all COVID. But if we agree with that, if we agree with that, then how do we get there? And talking about it as aggressively as you're talking about it in the first day is not necessarily, you can grant this. There's a separate between what the goal is and what the strategy is.
So you're saying that because I'm not aggressively going, it might not be the right strategy to tell on day one to put everyone in Guantanamo Bay and mass bans to achieve the result that you're looking to achieve. That's what I would just ask you. I think there is a difference, and I believe that in your guy's head that me thinking about the strategy is a sign for suspicion. Yeah.
There's no question. But you have a different goal than we do. No, no, no. I don't know. I actually don't know if that's true. Did we convince you? No, no. Hold on.
I am focused on... I mean, what drives my passion is talking about a multi-dimensional front on kids that includes a richer and richer data points. That's what I'm passionate about. I'm not passionate about going in podcasts and arguing that one thing is more important than the other.
And I do, and we've talked about this, I do think that, you know, what's happened to ultra processed food with kids is a really important issue. I'm not trying to even stack rank that. The book actually very importantly says food is very important, but it doesn't stack rank. It actually says there's a multidimensional threat.
No, no, no. Well, so, so I would say you can't back away from it. It doesn't have the word vaccine in it once.
Hold on. The book was turned in, yeah, like before like 2021, 2022. The book, absolutely. And this isn't like some secret like strategy. It's like, we didn't want to talk about the COVID vaccines in the book. That wasn't even discussion I had with anybody. It's just like, that was not the purpose of the book.
It was never a discussion with me and Casey. Never discussion with people who do podcasts.
Hold on. Okay, sure. Never discussed with me and Casey. Never a discussion with our publishers. Self-centric. I don't know. But but like I would say. you know, that wasn't what we were trying to write about. Like, like we were trying to make, we were trying to write a book for a parent who is totally in the dark about this shit. And we talked about this, that that book could be a gateway to,
I think our book's probably been a gateway for people like probably hopefully going more down the rabbit hole and like listening to your guys' stuff. Like, I think there's a lot of overlap. Like that was the purpose of the book. The purpose of the book is that I read some other books and kind of started going down the rabbit hole and I'm more down the rabbit hole now.
So like that book, that was the purpose of the book. it was not a deliberate thing not to mention, but it, again, I think it talks a lot about pharmaceuticals and I do think the book is a gateway, you know, as part of big A, it's happening with many things.
So if that book leads people to follow you and, and leads people on a journey, I can tell you, I think it has actually opened the door for a lot of people on a journey and it's not a journey to love vaccines and trust the medical system. Um, so, so that, that, that was the goal, um, on that, as far as what I'm passionate about, like, um, I just can't emphasize this enough.
I want you guys to get the message out. We should have these conversations. I think the tactical, I think it goes to your point about DC. My personal opinion is you can get a couple big things done. This is my thought. There's gotta be some really big wins that are really visible and really quick on this impugning this idea of our sick care system. And then as wins pile up,
There's an 80,000 person department and we can hopefully get good people in there and they can do bureaucratic things to unwind the deep state along with the vague, along with Elon. And I think there's a very optimistic mission there. My personal opinion is if you go day one and tell them to lock everyone out, go to Dynamo, it's actually going to subvert.
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