Calley Means
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15 recordings
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard 9 Apr
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And we should free that up to have people experiment about exercise, about light, about whatever. That's my goal.
I'm not interested in that. That is... That is what I'm trying to do too. So like probably indifferent, but like, so you're telling me that you're not satisfied unless, well, let me ask you, because I know you're very close to Nicole. That's not her message. Like that's not other people's message. Why aren't you that hard on her?
Yeah. Just you guys. It's fine.
There's a New York Times article in her newsletter. She questioned vaccines. I'm just saying like, like Casey has, you know, I don't know. Like we have a thesis. Do you even disagree? Do you even disagree with our key thesis? Like, do you even like, do you even like, like, I know you have.
Listen, I think this is a great conversation. I just say for everyone, like everyone needs to be on their own thing. And I think actually outside agitation and disruption and criticism, frankly, it's what I feel like I've been doing the past couple of years. Like, I think it's fine. I also don't think you need to, there's any more obligation to be supportive of anything.
And so it's just like, it's just like, I think that there's an, this is how it's woo, but this is what I think. I think there's an energy to this movement around Maha. And the more every part of the coalition could just be like, just trying to make it successful. I hope you're right. To be honest, I hope you're right. And I could definitely, but, but, but, but Jack,
Like, of course, in a year, you could be tweeting about how stupid I was and saying this is all my job to subvert it. No, it could definitely get subverted. But, like, we're at the moment right now where I think there's a lot of optimism in the country. So, like, I'm just saying, like, you know, the energy kind of dictates that, too. Like, I think...
A coalition came together and an energy on this issue came together that more than the media understands. Like I actually think like a lot of people have been really woken up. And I think the campaign Maha message was very positive. Like it was very like optimistic.
And I think if that could be translated into wins for President Trump and we can be like positive and organized and not immediately distrustful. Of course, there's going to be decisions we don't fully support, right? It's like, you know, you know, on the person, but like, like this is a team that's ready to execute the president Trump picked, you know, Bobby's in there. Nobody's controlling Bobby.
You know, there's a real sense of optimism and positivity. And I got to say this, there's a, there's a desire to get ideas and thinking and big ideas from, from everyone. And I know you're talking to people. It just, it's, You know, it's very imperfect.
It's very imperfect. It's very imperfect, but it's like... I don't have the interests.
I told, I told you, I know your heart and you know, I'm, I'm, we've connected today. I think, I think you're, I think we've made some progress. Conspiratorial. But, um, but I think, I think I am coming because it is super reasonable and I think it's high stakes. And, um, where do, where do we go from here? I don't know.
Trump, like, like Casey has not even been involved with this.
You have my commitment on that. I don't like this gun to my head of telling me what my message should be.
Well, let me, yeah, let me be clear about this. I think you could judge me for that. This is right after my mom.
You're actually making me, I mean, it was evil. My mom was going to die in the COVID protocols. We weren't going to be able to see her. You wouldn't be able to see her or anything. And then we were getting pressured. Right after he died, we were scared about seeing my dad. And, you know, like, yeah, it was like a whole, it was crazy.
Good. God, you have, okay. So let's wrap, like you have my absolute commitment. We are all on a journey. I've been on a journey for years on this issue, spurred by Casey's journey. Like, the rabbit hole goes deep. Everything should be questioned.
Like, if what you guys are saying is true, which is like, you know, this is paradigm shifting crazy, not crazy as in you guys are saying, but like crazy information. I mean, I don't, I think it should be.
So, so Jack, let me speak personally for me. Um, there's massive growing suspicion in my head and everyone's head with the level of obfuscation and lies and corruption that happened during COVID, including with the COVID vaccine. And what you're saying is super alarming. Um, you have my commitment that I am going to review that and think about it really seriously. That's all I'm asking you to do.
And that's, that's for me. Um, Nothing will surprise me. And I think one of the things I'm really optimistic about this time is that we can start asking questions and talk and shift some paradigms. And I think what we're talking about, going against an unambiguous government recommendation, there's huge forces to not have that conversation happening that I'm very skeptical of.
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