Calley Means
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard 9 Apr
Calley Means’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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The Dr. Hyman Show · Encore: Mastering Your Metabolism: Expert Advice You Need · 16 Dec 2024
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And then what happens is your insulin levels, they start creeping up because your body's trying to overcompensate for that block by producing more. And then that leads to so many of the downstream conditions that we've been talking about. When you've got this high insulin, one of the secondary effects of that, let's just talk about obesity.
insulin is a signal to the body that glucose is around for energy. And it's also a signal to the body that because there's so much glucose around, we don't need to use fat for energy. Glucose and fat are the two main ways that we produce energy in the body. And when that insulin's high, it blocks us from tapping in to fat burning. It says to the body, nope, you don't need to tap into fat burning.
We've got a bunch of glucose around. And so this is relevant to anyone who who is trying to lose weight or who has the excess belly fat because that insulin is a real block on helping us achieve those goals. And so for us to tap into our copious fats stores in our body, we need the insulin to be lower.
so by getting off that glucose roller coaster by eating foods that keep us more flat and stable throughout the day which is what we want for optimal health both in the short term and the long term we give our body a break from producing that insulin and that can have a real significant impact on our ability to um to lose weight to kind of get rid of that belly fat to tap into this alternate metabolic fuel source and to generate what we call metabolic
flexibility, which is this ability of the body to flip between using glucose when it's around and using fat when it's not around. And that state of being able to do both is a really healthy state. It's adaptive. But the average American with the vast majority of our calories coming from ultra processed foods, and I believe more than 70% of processed foods in the US have refined sugar in them.
And we've been told, of course, to eat six small meals a day. You are on, as an American, this up and down glucose roller coaster all day. And so you're really never giving your body this time in a low insulin state. So you really do have to be quite aware. think differently. I mean, the reality is, as an American adult, you're on a treadmill towards being overweight and chronic disease.
We were born and raised in Washington, D.C. And I thought being a good young conservative was supporting the farm industry or supporting the food industry, defending those industries. So I went to Stanford with Casey. She studied biology. I studied political science and economics and went on campaigns, but then was a lobbyist. Everyone bipartisan in D.C.
goes to work for the food and the farm industry. And on one morning, I'm working with the farm industry to literally steer money to the dean of Stanford Med School, who's a pain specialist, to be put on an NIH panel to say that opioids in 2011, that the issues around addiction were overblown. And we actually helped engineer an NIH panel to issue a report to say, opioid's okay, pain is a crisis.
And then later in the afternoon, working for food companies, working for Coke, steering money to institutions of trust, steering money to the NAACP to say that taking Coke off food stamps was racist. Coke soda today, to this day, is the number one item on food stamps. What I realized
fundamentally is that we are profiting the biggest industries the biggest spenders in the country are profiting from kids particularly getting addicted sick and fear and then and then drugging them and profiting from that what what is the conversation like when you guys are formulating a strategy to try to pretend that opioids aren't a problem
The institutional design of the system, which was greatly impacted by Casey's Awakening, is that it takes good people and gives them plausible deniability. Nobody's in those back rooms conspiring and trying to be an evil person. They're literally talking to these junior staffers like me about the scourge of pain and how we have to get this innovation of opioids to the American people.
Now it's about obesity and trying to get Ozempic to 60-year-olds, which is now... the standard of care. In the rooms, it's about doing what's right and getting this innovation to the American people and everyone can kind of fool themselves. With the food, it's about getting cheap calories to kids.
You know, it's not we're going to buy off and weaponize these academic research institutions like Harvard to say sugar doesn't cause obesity and then pay the NAACP to say lower income people need to be getting their government subsidized Coke. It's that we're promoting choice. And I really did believe that and people believe that. I think...
There's pings that's coming through in so many ways of people realizing this really isn't going the right direction. I think you see it with suicide rate among doctors, the burnout rate among doctors, the fact that every friend I have from Harvard Business School who went into the pharma industry, who went into the food industry, there's chronic rates of depression among elite business people.
I think people are starting to realize this, but still, in these rooms, it's about doing the right thing. You convince yourself of that.
I mean, the highest level, Joe, you know, I think we don't realize that there's a defining existential issue in our country where our major institutions have been captured. I think there's like pings of consciousness trying to alert us to this, like, you know, you having people on that are calling this stuff out, trying to ring the alarm bell and people flocking to this show.
you know, iconic class from the military industrial complex, from the healthcare industrial complex. I think Elon being the richest person, the world's trying to sell us something. It's like, let's get resources to these people calling these things out. I think it's like Donald Trump. Like, I've been thinking about this a lot. Why is he the defining figure of our lifetime?
Like, why have voters again and again and again gone to him and said, you know, this MAGA movement, like, Why are we like supporting this person, making him the defining person of our generation? What does he represent? He represents like putting finger on something that's just not quite right with institutions.
And I think the problem is we can't quite wrap our hand head around how bad it is and how so many people are complicit. But there's all these signs right now. And I think I think we're going to be brought to our knees if we don't realize this, that our institutions have been captured. Like to me, health care, what Casey talks about is.
It's a really visceral example of something just not right with what's happening to food, what's happening to our kids' health. And I think it's happening to the military, too, or the military industrial complex.
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