Calley Means
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first heard Oct 2024
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You are not obese by definition. Literally, you go down every single chronic condition that is torturing American life. If you're diabetic, you're four times more likely to be depressed or suicidal because there are cells in our head and diabetes is cellular dysregulation. So literally, on the research and the science thing,
I think there's great heroes who've been getting into the weeds on the research, but chronic disease is interconnected to basic lifestyle factors. I think this is a political issue, honestly. Every American needs to ask, is this an incremental issue where we need slightly better pharmaceutical interventions and slightly better research?
Or is this a radical shift of understanding how our bodies are interconnected and understanding that that needs to be a shift in medicine and, frankly, how we view the environment? Like, that is a question that we actually think is relatively urgent and relatively existential. Modern society is amazing. But as Casey said, this is dark right now.
Like, if you believe what Casey is saying about these statistics about chronic disease and you actually look at the math that we're growing two times with health care spending the rate of GDP. It's the largest and fastest growing industry in the country. The fastest growing industry in the United States is not AI. It's not tech. It's healthcare.
And as it grows, we get sicker, fatter, more depressed, more infertile. It is going to bankrupt the country and it's not slowing down. So if you actually believe this, believe we need a new paradigm, is it about getting better research or is it about actually saying the research is wrong? This whole paradigm of seeing chronic disease in silos is wrong.
So I'm sure you can talk more about Alzheimer's, but it's interconnected.
I'll just say there's kind of just a question with all we're hearing about these diseases. Is the reason Alzheimer's is skyrocketing because we don't have enough research and don't have enough drugs? Is the reason obesity rates are skyrocketing among kids because we don't have enough drugs or not enough research? That's the argument that's being given to us. We're literally being told.
After the lessons of COVID, which the COVID lockdowns and what the pharmaceutical industry did with their co-option of our government with COVID was the most significant public policy mistake in American history, at least since World War II. In modern times, I think we can all agree on.
We are still saying – and it's just people, I think, because we trust the medical system still so much, we are literally thinking societally that – that the fact that there's an obesity crisis among six-year-olds is a drug deficiency issue. It's a dark, I think, blind spot in our culture right now.
Yeah.
Yeah. So with Max, actually, with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, with Marty McCary, Chris Palmer, a number of voices, we're engaging members of Congress. We're talking to helping whatever we can with RFK and Trump's leadership on this. But I had a somewhat out of body experience that kind of hits on what you're getting at. I was sitting across from the member of Congress
and I think it's the exact same issue on obesity, who introduced this Treat and Reduce Obesity Act. It has 150 co-sponsors, and it's to jam government-funded ozempics. So it starts with Medicare. 80% of people on Medicare, old people, are obese or overweight. So the second this bill is signed, You have open season on all people on Medicare.
And then the second something's approved for Medicare always goes to Medicaid for lower income people because why would an old person be eligible for something but not a poor person in the United States? So that immediately goes to Medicaid. That's the game. And then Medicaid, right, it's six years old. It's now being pushed for on six-year-olds.
The second this bill is signed, $1,600 per patient per month, taxpayer money, which is why Novo Nordics is the ninth most valuable company in the world right now, this Danish company expecting 90% of their profits from the United States on expectation of this bill's passage. So we're sitting across from him. And I bring these things up. And I bring up a simple question of,
Why is this one-size-fits-all jamming Ozempic into the average American's arm instead of opening up flexibility to potentially explore regenerative food or exercise or incentivizing those things? It's not even fully anti-drug, but why is this? What clinician said this is the cure, like this is the one cure?
Because it's not opening up any money for food or exercise or any other modality that could actually cure the root cause of obesity. And he looked at me fully, fully serious and said, I'd never thought of that.
And I told them that it's being pushed on kids and that there's an aggressive effort where Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, the top obesity researcher at Harvard, was funded significantly by Novo Nordics and millions of dollars in research grants and went on 60 Minutes where the top funder of 60 Minutes is pharmaceutical companies and said obesity is a brain disease and a genetic. She said that.
Top Harvard researcher. And she said, it needs to be aggressively intervened for kids. I said, there's open season on kids. The guy who introduced the bill, he said, that's not true. I'm going to put in the bill that kids can't use. I'm like, you'd be going against the FDA guidance on that. You can't do that.
I go, you understand, based on the JP Morgan estimates, where they literally presented the estimates of increasing obesity rates at the JP Morgan conference in San Francisco.
And all the investors clapped like seals, standing ovation, standing ovation as they presented a chart on rising obesity rates showing that as Ozempic increases in prescription rates, obesity in the United States will increase. Unpack that one for me. They show that graph and everyone claps because it's a lifetime drug, because it's a crash diet. It's liquid anorexia.
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