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Carol Leonnig

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
448 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

We can do it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

It's very thoughtful.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

So when we open with Camille Shields and David Kent, they are being browbeaten by Donald Trump and

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

indirectly i mean he's not coming at them specifically but he is pushing pushing pushing the department of justice to criminally charge former acting fbi director andy mccabe who opened an investigation of donald trump right that's his crime but donald trump wanted him charged for other things is it a righteous case like is it in the public interest

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

to charge this guy with misleading or lying to some federal investigators when he was asked a question about a leak in a newspaper story.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

But we also wanted to explain, how do people get this shared vision?

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

And how do they get these values?

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

And the Honors Program is the way so many of the people who led the Department of Justice under Joe Biden and even in the first Trump administration

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

So many of them came up through that program.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

It's like the youngest, best, brightest lawyers that came out of law school.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

We're grabbing them, we're training them young, and we're going to teach them what it means to represent the United States of America.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Huge fast forward and wow.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

I mean, there's an estimate out there that 4,000 FBI agents and federal prosecutors have left the Department of Justice since January 20th.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

You know, the afternoon of January 20th, I saw a century worth of DOJ leadership be reassigned and essentially pressured to resign.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

People who were in charge of counterterror, George Toskis,

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

had led most of the counterterror investigations of the last two decades for the Department of Justice.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

And poof, he's out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

The people that are still there, and I do talk to quite a few of them, are holding on to something, and that is justice.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

that this department needs them, that there are bread and butter cases, not the sexy, you know, grab the headlines, politically tinged cases like Eric Adams, the New York mayor charged with taking bribes or Donald Trump charged with hoarding and concealing and obstructing justice with classified records.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

There are bread and butter cases and these people are