Caroline Foran

gone through something and really have that curiosity and wanting to know more about that or to support themselves or someone else so like I am I am going to hopefully if all goes well I'm going to start a master's this summer in um the psychology and neuroscience of mental health oh my god amazing I'd love to do something like that yeah I just feel I just really want to

delve into that a bit more I feel like I probably know a lot already but I want to formalize it and then when I do podcasts I don't have to say sorry I'm not an expert I know what you mean to actually just have that little you know it legitimizes what you do um but oftentimes it's just a societal prerequisite I think to be taken seriously

Yeah, I mean, then you've kind of coming at it from both angles and that's really invaluable to people who are going through it and people are going through it right now.

Wow.

Yeah.

I'm not surprised and it was really interesting for me.

Obviously it was a terrible time and people were really negatively affected by it, but to see something affect us on a global, like that's never happened before, like that we were all, all of our nervous systems were compromised by this legitimate threat

That was outside our door.

We were sending messages to ourselves daily being told, you know, you're not safe.

You need to do this.

You need to wear a mask.

Being around people isn't safe.

That gets in on you.

And even if you didn't feel like a lot of people didn't feel anxious about COVID, a lot of people enjoyed the slower pace and they enjoyed the time at home and they maybe started businesses and like maybe it was the making of them.

But even if you don't, you didn't feel consciously aware of it.

Something at that level, that's that...

genuine like it's not just oh you don't need to worry about that we did need to worry like it was a very valid cause for concern it was the biggest threat we'd ever faced on a global scale that everyone was impacted by like that doesn't just disappear yeah when you spent like we had to spend if you think about it how many months on end conditioning ourselves to believe that we were 24 months yeah

So to reverse that conditioning, just because things opened up and we were like, right, it's fine now.

Yes, you might be able to go out and do things, but that message takes so long to unwind in your body.

And I do think that so many people ended up arriving at anxiety, maybe not to their awareness directly because of COVID, but COVID became a huge vulnerability factor that put strain and pressure on their nervous system so that when they went to go to work and to cope in their relationships and everything, all of those things were a little bit more difficult.