Caroline Lucas

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487 appearances 6 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 13 Aug

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The Rest Is Politics · Will Climate Action Go Backwards Under Burnham? · 13 Aug 2026 podcast

And what we need to do to be able to change the way the electricity market works is to have yet more renewables and more battery power. matched

We don't need gas in the same way as the kind of the supplier of last resort. matched

We need to be able to have smart grids, we need to be able to balance electricity needs, you know, across things like the cars that are parked outside our homes that have electric batteries. matched

There are all kinds of ways we can do this without extracting yet more oil and gas. matched

So the first point I think is around really saying that sovereignty is not on the side of people. matched

Who want more fossil fuels. matched

You know, in terms of the decoupling of gas and electricity prices, I think the reason it's not happened is because, under many models for making it happen, it does require the government to step in. matched

It does require the government, for example, to be quite a player in the market. matched

And that has run counter to the kind of neoliberal consensus that we've had, you know, across the Western world for the last several decades. matched

decades. matched

But I don't think that means it's not possible. matched

And I think I just want to come back to my point that matched

In a way, the point of the miniseries was to say we are at a critical inflection point. matched

And I don't think the future is going to be the same as the past in terms of the kinds of threats that we face. matched

And if we don't get this right, then precisely those warnings that those security forces, the MI5, the MI6, the GCHQ, who are now kind of shouting at us to take notice of this stuff, are simply going to get ignored. matched

We've got a moment here where we can make decisions. matched

that could make sure that we have a a livable future going into the f into the future. matched

I mean I would come back to well, two things really. matched

I I think the media I know it's easy to to to blame the media, but you know, even now matched

Mm-hmm. matched

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