Cas Holman

And the playground that ultimately I got to work on was kind of it.

It's in the South Seaport area, kind of down near Battery Park City.

Oh, okay.

For that, we wound up inventing the big blue blocks.

I'm sure there are places in LA that have them.

A lot of children's museums have them.

What we wanted was that the kids could design the playground.

Yeah.

And I was kind of like, kids are going to love a playground because A, it's for them.

Yeah.

B, there's other kids there and mostly they can run and slide and do all things.

So we were thinking about why do they all kind of look alike, like these pipe and platform.

I think they look like scaffoldings and also sometimes a little bit like jails.

And so we were trying to think about how it can look different.

And then I realized, who cares if it looks different?

What's the play experience of the kid?

And also, why are we designing it?

What if the kids could design it?

And so not just as a process for this one playground, I was like, what if the playground itself is the thing that kids are designing by playing there?

Really inspired by adventure playgrounds, which are junk playgrounds.