Cas Holman

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772 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Oct 2025 last heard 29 Oct

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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard · Cas Holman (on being playful) · 29 Oct 2025 podcast

Yeah.

And our go-to in order to avoid boredom is to scroll.

And that's just a bottomless pit of, are you ever going to find what you're looking for there?

Yeah.

And imagine if you had the muscle memory of play instead of phone.

I think of my phone as potentially a toy, but I'm like, am I using it as a toy or a tool?

Right.

I like to use it as a tool.

And when it becomes a toy, that's when I'm like, what's in the world around me that I could be playing with instead?

For example, my dog.

He's really good at knocking it out of my hand.

Yeah.

Attention play is really for adults right now.

And so look around, daydream, watch the birds, look at this thing and imagine how it was made.

I love the subway.

Subway is my primary form of transport.

I don't go on my phone on the subway.

Increasingly, I am the only one.

Yeah, sure.

I'm imagining where are they coming from and going to or how was that thing made or what was that person thinking with those shoes?

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