Cas Holman
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
You're like, oh, fascinating.
Wonderful.
Now I understand a little bit more about how you work and we're friends.
So this is great.
We took a time out and I was like, okay, here, I'll put my pieces back.
And we did it together.
We followed the instructions.
And I was like, okay, that was the thing that we did together.
Totally different than my play.
And I got to learn what her play was.
This is how we understand each other, right?
We learn about each other through play.
You two know each other because you're both conversationally so playful.
And it's so funny because then you have a toy that's telling you that you're wrong.
And you're like, wait, I am a competent human.
And this thing that's meant to make me feel good and enjoy myself is making me feel bad.
When you do...
Do the thing that's hard and stay unattached to the outcome.