Chamath

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939 appearances 12 recordings 2 series first heard Jun 2024 last heard 3 Jun

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I think what you saw is that she got a bounce out of the debate, but now it's sort of like a lot of these... bounces, there's been kind of effervescence to it, and then it kind of settles down back to the recurring pattern. And so I think the election is extremely close, but I don't think... Oh, yeah.
I mean, every day it's like a poll going one way or the other. I mean, this is the closest of our lifetime, maybe. Or that I can remember. I mean, it's nuts how this thing has flipped over and over again. What did you think of Trump's performance? Were you disappointed? There were some rumors, people were a little upset that he doesn't prep as much as he should. What's your advice there?
Well, look, I mean, I think that he was in a very difficult situation. You basically had a three-on-one situation where he was up against not just Kamala Harris, but the two debate moderators. It turns out that Lindsay Davis is Kamala's sorority sister. David Muir was fact-checking him constantly, and some of those fact-checks weren't even correct.
For example, we now know that the Springfield city manager has acknowledged complaints about pets being eaten. Oh, here we go. I was wondering if we were going to get through the episode. As far back as March, there are videos of him talking about the complaints.
Now you can, you can say that you don't believe those stories or whatever, but those reports were real, but David Muir fact-checked in real time saying that Trump was wrong. And there was like this effort to kind of gaslight and make him sound crazy during the debate when there are in fact sources for what he was saying.
And it might've thrown him off a little bit. I noticed like, it was like, he, I agree. They going into it, I think they need to negotiate in the future. You know how they're negotiating the microphones on or off, audience on or off. I think they should negotiate. Are we fact-checking in real time or are we not fact-checking? And who's doing that fact-checking?
Well, totally. And they only fact-check one candidate. For example, when Kamala Harris repeated numerous hoaxes like the Very Fine People hoax, the Bloodbath hoax, the Suckers and Losers hoax. I mean, these are things that were already addressed in the last debate. And You know, even left-wing sites like Snopes have said the whole verified people thing is totally made up.
Yes, for people who don't know that, there's been selective edits. I mean, there's been selective edits forever, but that one is particularly egregious.
It's really egregious. The bloodbath one is really egregious, too.
Yeah, because he was talking about the bloodbath and EVs. Yeah, and just make it into a January 6th extension, which it's not.
Right, so she was able to say these things and never got fact-checked once, which meant she never got knocked out of her preparation.
And let's also be honest, like Trump is hyperbolic. So if you are going to say, you know, oh, we're going to fact check Trump, like there's a lot of material there. And he just he's a hyperbolic guy. That's kind of his shtick, right? I mean.
But here's the thing, is that in the wake of that debate, look, I think a lot of people scoring the debate on technical debater's points would award her the win for that night. Clearly she won, yeah. I don't deny that. However, what I think has been surprising is that in the wake of the debate, you're seeing her support sort of return more to its previous level.
And so what I'm saying is the effect of that's wearing off. And I think one of the reasons why that's wearing off is because Trump still has the killer issues in this election. He's got the border, and he's got inflation and the economy. And Harris may have done well, again, on debaters' points, but what substantive answer did she give in that debate, except to say, I'm not Joe Biden, which...
is, I guess, true. However, what you're basically saying is you won't defend your own administration's record. You are the incumbent. You're not the change candidate. And you're saying that people should vote for you because you're not Joe Biden. Well, what is it about Joe Biden's record that, what is it about Joe Biden's policies that you don't agree with?
I mean, after all, you cast the tie-breaking vote for the Inflation Reduction Act. You cast it for the $2 trillion American Rescue Plan that set off the inflation. So the debate moderators never asked Harris, well, what is it about you that is different than Joe Biden on a policy level, other than the fact that you're different people?
Apparently she's pro-gun. I thought that was like a great moment for her. Objectively, I think, and I've said this forever here on this show, putting our feelings aside about the candidates, I think whoever comes across as the most normal or the most moderate is going to win. And I think she's done a great job of like... convincing those moderates that she's not crazy and he is.
What are your thoughts on that? Because people looked at this very podcast and they've said to me, my God, that's the Trump I want to vote for, that Trump 2.0, the all-in Trump. And then people are like, ah, he's going back to the insult comic Trump, but I don't want the chaos. What are your thoughts on moderates specifically in the swing states and this sort of strategy.
Let's talk about the Teamsters. So Biden, when he was still in the race, was plus eight among the Teamsters rank and file. And now that Harris is the candidate, Trump is up something like plus 26 with the Teamsters. Yeah.
Why is that? Because she's, isn't she pro-Union as well? He was Union Joe. So, I mean, it was like in the name. I understand why they loved him.
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