Charlie Mackesy

And he said, the first thing you need to do is not be frightened of what you're feeling.

Don't be frightened of it.

It's okay.

And he taught me how to not be fearful of the fear itself.

Don't be anxious of your anxiety because that just means it builds like a wall.

He taught me, well, there was the breathing thing.

He said, you're a shallow breather.

Okay.

So he did the four seconds in, hold it four seconds out, do that for two minutes.

So I did that.

And then we discussed a lot about how anxiety can be triggered by nothing at all.

It doesn't need a valid context or circumstance.

It can just come out of nowhere, which it still does.

I'm just like, what?

Yes.

what is that yes um so i do breathing and i tell myself to to to to not fear it and there's a page in the book about that sometimes things spin out of control and remember that you are not a storm it's not you so it's okay and and um

And then obviously in times when it's not going on, practice things that help you, whether it's meditation, nature, running, some pray, some breathe, some meditate, all these things.

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